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Henk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:16 am    Post subject: Is it allowed to have overlapping profiles? Reply with quote

I am using 5 profiles with vvengine running as a service.
The service runs from a local account.

My computer has 3 local drives, C is an SSD, E and F are Sata Harddrives.
I am running Windows 11.
Vice Versa Pro is V4 build 4004 64-bit
vvengine is v2.2 build 2240

I have 4 folders on Drive-E where each of these is kept in sync with a shared folder on my Synology NAS.

The profiles in vvengine run at startup, run immediately as soon as Source and Target are available (Check with PING only) and both Source and Target are monitored for changes.

This sync from E-drive to NAS worked just fine.

Now I have added profile 5 to vvengine with the same settings as described above. This profile syncs a folder on my C-drive to a folder within one of the E-drive folders (which I want synced to my NAS by one of the other profiles)

Each profile is using a uniquely named tracking database with logging enabled.

My rationale behind this setup is that I do all of my photography editing on the SSD as it provides the best performance. I just edited one photo and as expected the last profile added to vvengine detected the changed files and synced them to the folder on the E-drive.

Now I was expecting the other profile to detect this and sync the change to my NAS but it does not detect anything.

I have started a manual run of the E-to-NAS profile before adding the C-drive-folder to E-drive-folder profile to vvengine and it completed succesfully, so it should be aware of the last status of source and target.

I hope this makes sense.

Should this work as I hope it will or is an illegal construct?
If it should work, what can I do/check to solve my issue?

Kind regards,

Henk
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thank you for posting on the forum. Are changes on the NAS detected by VVEngine? Sometimes NAS do not support file change detection... which would mean that you would need to run the profiles every X minutes or hours on top of change detection...
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Henk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thank you for your reply.

I am sure it worked as I have tested adding/deleting files and folders and saw the profile starting to run and the change synced to the other end.

I have just deleted the C-drive to E-drive profile from vvengine in an attempt to return to the situation I had before and created some folders on both the E-drive and the NAS. Unfortunately neither has been detected.

Can it be that a NAS sometimes does work and another time not?
It is just that I have seen it work before although now that it does not work I even start questioning that...

The change on the local drive is not detected either, is that logical?

Is there a way to tell from the logfile how the profile run was started, manual or after detection of a change?

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Henk
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Henk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looking in vvengine I notice 2 profile with "Manual Run" and 2 profiles with "Changes Detected"
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe change detection is not enabled in the VVEngine scheduling settings for these two profiles?
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Henk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change detection is enabled for all profiles.

After a good nights rest I am now in the process of testing if I can recreate the issue although up till now all goes well...

Below my steps until now:

First a summary of the environment:

Drive E: with folders M, O, P and T (equal to my mapped drives on the NAS)
Drives M:, O:, P:, and T: on a Synology DS918+ NAS runnig DSM 7.1.1-42962 Update 2

Description of steps with vvengine with results:

1) 4 profiles, for M, O, P and T not detecting changes
Move folder __C-Fotografie from E:\O\ to E:\ (out of O-profile source folder)
Reboot computer
All 4 profiles are running (Run at Startup is enabled)

2) Checked in Directory Opus (explorer replacement) to verify that NAS drives are available (just clicked on the drive)

3) Delete folder in M:\, profile starts running after 8 sec, elapse 50 sec
4) Delete folder in E:\M\, profile starts running after 6 sec, elapse 50 sec

5) Create folder in O:\, profile starts running after 7 sec, elapse 1 min
6) Disable profile for O:

7) Create folder on P:\, profile starts running after 8 sec, elapse 51 sec

Cool Move folder __C-Fotografie from E:\ to E:\O\ (into O-profile source folder)

9) Add profile to vvengine, Source=C:, Target=E:\O\, I'll call this profile-E

10) Enable profile-E

11) Manual run profile-E, elapse 27 sec

12) Delete folder in P:\, profile starts running after 6 sec, elapse 53 sec

13) Enable profile for O:

14) Delete folder from O:\, profile starts running after 6 sec (Changes detected)
In addition to the detected removal of the folder this run should also detect the folder synced from C: to E:\O\
Checked on the NAS drive and the files are indeed copying
Total size is 311Gbyte, took 32 min from C: to E:
This copy is to the NAS so it will be busy for a few hours

After completion I will do an edit of a photo.
This should start the sync from C: to E:\O\
After this the sync from E:\O\ to O| should start

The last steps if things turn out to work as I think/hope they will
If they do I will have no clue as to why things did not work before, maybe the reboot sorted things, we'll see.

I'll keep you posted.

Kind regards,

Henk
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Henk



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, although I do not know the why and/or how, I think I'll leave it at that the reboot must have sorted something I am not aware off.

The copy from E:\O\ to the NAS has completed and my edited photo has found it's way from C to E and finally to O

While the vv process was still copying E:\O\ to the NAS I inadvertently deleted a folder on C because I thought that my keyboard was switched to my laptop, and that delete was also synced from C to E. Unfortunately the E to O copy had not reached that folder yet so it was really gone. On a positive note, things work as intended, I just have to redo about 10 edits...

So to answer my own question, profiles overlapping (on source -OR- target) work just fine.

Kind regards, Henk
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks, yes it is allowed to have overlapping profiles.
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